TANEYTOWN wrote:People die in war.
Which is why you don't enter war lightly. The world agreed on a set of principles before a war could be "sanctioned". No matter how bad the regime you can't just go in and "remove" them because you will have the exact same power struggle as is seen and it will be ordinary citizens who are caught up in the civil unrest. Either as casualties or through starvation, disease etc.
You too are mixing up all the enemies in your discussion. When the Saddam terrorism link is dismissed you throw in Iran or Taliban or al Qaeda or whoever best diverts from a very week argument. Stick with one for the sake of the general discussion you keep asking for. Strawmen arguments are for the weakminded.
Summing up your argument to date it seems to be: it was ok to start this war on a reem of lies in order to keep an eye on Iran. And that's it?
The worst thing Taney is this whole "we're winning" attitude. "We" f*cking started it! It's a sickening boast given the amount of people who have been killed. This isn't a game of football, there are no winners.
It's like some jock going into a bar seeing some little nerd enjoying a quiet West Coast Cooler, walking up to him and then just beating the crap out of him for no reason and walking away shouting how he'd won the fight.
Unfortunately though facts and figures aren't always to be believed, especially not official ones. What is worrying is just how many mercenaries are over there. Not including the largets Private Military Force (Blackwater), there were 180,000 PMFs in Iraq employed by the US. There were only 160,000 actual military personnel.
As the official forces are decreased, the PMF increases. Of course, "winning" this whole thing is a lot easier with a bunch of people who aren't accountable to any international agreements or laws of conflict. It also looks better to have living breathing troops coming home rather than a bunch of coffins.
I do wonder if the people of Zimbabwe are wondering how there might be a bit more help coming their way right now if only they had some oil.