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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby anarchy63 » Fri May 23, 2008 3:17 pm

i for one, am lapping up ev'ry bit o' country i can get my hands on.

oo err missus :wink:
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby Steve Roberts » Fri May 23, 2008 6:20 pm

A mate of mine wrote a book about country music in Liverpool for the Liverpool University. Country - and western - has always been loved in this city.

Country music is surely Americana whichever way you look at it.
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby The big huge » Fri May 23, 2008 8:25 pm

noteethleroy wrote:
kinda unrelated side question:

Is acres a international measurement? Or is there some other way of measuring land over there? I was trying to remember how big my moms farm was and got to wondering.



1 Acre = 4046 m²

The statutory values for 1 acre were enacted by English kings , from Kind Edward I onwards
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby BigE » Fri May 23, 2008 9:36 pm

This web page maybe useful

http://www.metric-conversions.org/area-conversion.htm

Sadly... I'm still an "Imperial" man for the most part - I would still appreciate seeing "proper"
weights and measures in the shops even now!!!!
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby Dangerbird » Fri May 23, 2008 11:30 pm

noteethleroy wrote:kinda unrelated side question:

Is acres a international measurement? Or is there some other way of measuring land over there? I was trying to remember how big my moms farm was and got to wondering.


kinda unrelated? now there's an understatement...
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby noteethleroy » Sat May 24, 2008 4:36 am

Yeah, so it more completely unrelated than kinda.

I do find this stuff interesting though, I wish we had gone metric over here. It would be a hard adjustment but so much better in the long run, and metric just seems to make more sense to me.
It sure would make figuring measurements easier than having to do all the fractions we have to do, when I was in construction I had to have a pretty fancy calculator to help me on some stuff because of all the fractions.

Sorry for the off topicness, I thought it so I asked it, I'm sure it won't be my last time, I do that a lot.
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby Ol' Time Phelan » Sat May 24, 2008 4:48 am

noteethleroy wrote:Yeah, so it more completely unrelated than kinda.

I do find this stuff interesting though, I wish we had gone metric over here. It would be a hard adjustment but so much better in the long run, and metric just seems to make more sense to me.
It sure would make figuring measurements easier than having to do all the fractions we have to do, when I was in construction I had to have a pretty fancy calculator to help me on some stuff because of all the fractions.

Sorry for the off topicness, I thought it so I asked it, I'm sure it won't be my last time, I do that a lot.



Just so you know we have the metric system here in Australia, but people still use acres. Mainly farmers saying, "I've got 100 acres" etc. I also live on a quarter acre block. We use feet when talking about surf and Subway sandwichs too.
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby Dangerbird » Sat May 24, 2008 7:07 am

Dan Phelan wrote:We use feet when talking about surf and Subway sandwichs too.


i've often wondered why we refer to a record as a 12" and not a 1ft.
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby Stuart W » Sat May 24, 2008 8:49 am

noteethleroy wrote:Sorry for the off topicness, I thought it so I asked it, I'm sure it won't be my last time, I do that a lot.


No worries mate; I do that too. I took the liberty of starting a new thread on the subject.
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby Stuart W » Sat May 24, 2008 8:54 am

Steve Roberts wrote:Country music is surely Americana whichever way you look at it.


I'm with you on that Steve, the two genres are, whatever one's personal tastes, inextricably linked and any 'demarcation lines' (which are probably 'in the ear of the beholder' anyway) far too blurred in many cases to differentiate between.
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby Ol' Time Phelan » Sat May 24, 2008 10:35 am

Dangerbird wrote:
Dan Phelan wrote:We use feet when talking about surf and Subway sandwichs too.


i've often wondered why we refer to a record as a 12" and not a 1ft.


Hip Hoppers call them that.
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby Dangerbird » Sat May 24, 2008 10:44 am

Dan Phelan wrote:
Dangerbird wrote:
Dan Phelan wrote:We use feet when talking about surf and Subway sandwichs too.


i've often wondered why we refer to a record as a 12" and not a 1ft.


Hip Hoppers call them that.


are you serious?!
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby Ol' Time Phelan » Sat May 24, 2008 1:53 pm

yes, I've heard them called a one foot by a guy from Def Wish Cast.
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby Ghost » Sat May 24, 2008 9:33 pm

Wow, I can't believe someone doesn't like the lyrics to Homecoming


I'm with you. Here's what Joe Henry said about Homecoming in the liner notes for Real:

''It's like a Raymond Carver short story - a bite out of the middle of someone's life, beginning abruptly and dangling at the end with a flash of almost unspeakable regret. It is remarkable that with conversational small-talk, we know in a handful of verses all we need to know about this man, his relationship to his family, his arrogant facade and his gnawing self-doubt. I still laugh out loud when I hear it..."

I know it's all about opinions but to say the song is 'sick-making' (which I think is what the implication was) is a bit bewildering to me. I'd like to say maybe it's because it's just the lyrics, but if I'm honest, I fail to see the problem there. All I can say is, if that makes anyone sick you want to try and plough your way through some Brad Paisley songs (where the idea seems to have been to come up with some 'River'-era Springsteen-style lyrics, but fail, and then add extra cheesiness by way of compensation) - they always make me cringe.

FWIW I've always thought that Homecoming is all about the last line ''And by the way if you see Barbara Walker say 'Hello' ''. The narrator is still in love with Barbara Walker, and goes through all this bull with his Father (who he clearly doesn't care much about) just to get some sort of message to her.

One other point - the Joe Henry version of Homecoming on Real is an inferior mix than the version that was on the Trampoline CD single a couple of years earlier (the guitar was higher in that mix than the pump organ). In my opinion :)
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Re: Let's talk about country music (warning Andy, list itt)

Postby fiona » Sun May 25, 2008 10:35 am

Agree, with Joe Henry on those lyrics. But then, anything Joe Henry does or says is OK with me. Two of last year's best records, his own Civilians and Mary Gauthier's Henry-produced Between Daylight and Dark 8)

Not performing Homecoming, but indeed Trampoline and many other haunting songs, here http://www.fabchannel.com. Scroll down the concerts list. Absolutely brilliant.
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